It's not led -- as in, it's not centrally coordinated by a Big Kahuna, or it's not planned by a Pentagon? Or it's not led by a warlord or local imam or just somebody who doesn't like Americans?

I sincerely doubt that some guy looks in the corner of his apartment and says, "Hey, look, an RPG-7! I think I'll go attack a tank!" These folks with weapons are gathering and they are finding leadership. As I've said elsewhere, once some country, whether openly or clandestinely, begins supporting the Iraqi insurgents / guerillas / troublemakers, it will be a very, very tough time for the Americans. And as soon as some country thinks they can profit by supporting the rebels / freedom fighters / mujahedin, the money and arms will start flowing across the very long, very open, very lonely borders.

sgc

After Vietnam, the US Army STILL has officers who think that guerrilla warfare is "just weird"????

Dr. Paul' Words of Wisdom

that was then ...

If we have to occupy Iraq for years, as some people are foolishly suggesting, it's one cost. If, in fact, as the Iraqi Americans in Dearborn are saying, we're going to be greeted as liberators, it's a very different and much lower cost.

Wolfowitz, Good Morning America, February 28, 2003

this is now ...

"I think we're going to be here in a big way with forces and economic input for a minimum of three to five years," Sen. Joseph Biden, the [Senate Foreign Relations] committee's ranking Democrat, told reporters in Baghdad. [Reuters, June 23, 2003]

"I think that the numbers, the years that Chairman Lugar has talked about, Senator Biden -- a five-year time frame -- I think that's realistic," Hagel said in an interview with U.S. network ABC's "Good Morning America" show. [June 23, 2003]

Richard Lugar, a Republican, urged President Bush to do some "real truth-telling" to explain to his people how much commitment and money would be needed to rebuild the country from the ruins of war and 35 years of Baathist rule. [Reuters, June 23, 2003]

It's not led -- as in, it's not centrally coordinated by a Big Kahuna, or it's not planned by a Pentagon? Or it's not led by a warlord or local imam or just somebody who doesn't like Americans?

Well, this story informs us that troops were attacked by an AK-wielding twelve-year-old girl.

So it's fair to say that there is some grassroots support for the resistance. This isn't going away with another couple of days or weeks of sweeps.

And yeah, how on Earth could a modern Army guy think of guerrilla warfare as weird? What the hell are we teaching our soldiers?

And, gee, they send Army Officers to college too. Otherwise they wouldn't know this much.

Since 10 of 18 dead kids came from this guy's unit, I am glad he is starting to pick up on this weird 'No Flowers for Occupiers' action in Iraq. Maybe he won't have to send so many body bags home now.

The reason George's war is really agonizing to those of us with a memory and knew better is that recent history is a playbook on how to destroy the American Army. And it ain't stand up fights that destroy our morale, it is the endless being hunted.

Well, today is Monday, and Herr Bremmer, the US democracy activist, is starting up a new Iraqi Army. They may be allowed to guard the borders of their own country while we pump their oil to Israel. Please pay no attention to the pipeline that exploded again, it is not militarily significant. Nor will the explosion next week.

But we will have a public oil pumping ceremony in Turkey for some Iraqi oil that has been sitting there since before the invasion. Stenos, we would like you to put a film clip of that on TV.

The Iraqis have the initiative.

Occupation produces publicity stunt.
Resistance blows it up.
An American kid buys it for George.
Occupation announces new ... to fix last bust.
Resistance blows that up.
Another American kid buys it for George.

Repeat until we leave...

Republican Hypocrites build memorial to dead Americans whose lives they wasted and get in lots of pious soundbites 'Supporting the Troops' they killed. But they cut the education money for their victims kids...

Imagine a guy in the new Iraqi army guarding the border of Iraq and, say, some other country. And a dusty truck with a load of RPG-7s to blow up the Iraq to Israel pipeline comes trundling up.

Some American kicked in the door of his uncle's house last week. Accidentally shot his cousin. Looked at his other cousin without her veil on. But we came back later and said we were sorry and handed out some MREs.

Nobody saw nothin'. The guerillas get their supplies.

I dread the news from Iraq the most. Just about none of it is even close to good. The worst is not knowing when the next kid is going to buy it for George's plan to pump Iraqi oil to Israel.

Yeah, the economy sucks. Yeah, George is a right wingnut. But the worst is losing our kids for this bum and the imperialist PNACers behind him.

Herr Bremmer probably even thinks the Vietnamization plan is not going all that badly...

I seem to recall that we got positive press reports from Nam for a long time... almost right up to when the helos left the roof of the US Embassy.

I don't think that the army--at the grunt level--was appraised of what they were getting into. Though I'm sure that more than a few were wary its also true that a lot of kids probably thought they would go in, kick some ass, and head home to big parades, free beer, and appreciative girlfriends. The Third, for example, was not expecting to be reassigned to peacekeeping duties. Its not surprising that the troops would be a little freaked out about how things have played out.

Since the grunts were around eight years old for Gulf War I, they expected to be marching down Pennsylvania Avenue right now. Instead they will have sand, fear, sniping and bobby traps. To get out, the troopers will stop treating their scratches and infections. Entrepreneurs will sell hash and H around the corner. Their Officers will live in air-conditioned palaces.

The American Heritage dictionary:

guerilla or guerrilla: A member of an irregular, usually indigenous military or paramilitary unit operating in small bands in occupied territory to harass and undermine the enemy, as by surprise raids.

Odierno again:

Although major combat operations have concluded, our soldiers are involved in almost daily contact with noncompliant forces, former regime members and common criminals.

Quit playing semantical games, General. What you call "noncompliant forces" are guerrilla fighters. You don't win a fight by arguing definitions. Get out there and ask your troops what it's like to fight "noncompliant forces". Better yet, get out there and do it yourself, and take the place of some poor bastard from the 3rd ID. Those folks have been stuck in the theater since October.

GIVE ME A Q - Q!

GIVE ME A U - U!

GIVE ME AN A - A!

GIVE ME A G - G!

GIVE ME AN M - M!

GIVE ME AN I - I!

GIVE ME AN R - R!

GIVE ME AN E - E!

WHAT'S THAT SPELL ? - QUAGMIRE!
WHAT'S THAT SPELL ? - QUAGMIRE!
WHAT'S THAT SPELL ? - QUAGMIRE!

some viet nam vets will tell you, after they have had something to drink, that they killed children in nam. they had to, these children would kill them! usually these vets are in a high state of upset when they tell you this. we are back there now. thank you aWol! thank you chickenhawks!

by "noncompliant forces", the general means, "You MUST comply. That is an order! You nonentity, who do you think you are not to submit to the US? You must comply. Now!"

The generals comments and those junior officers makes me wonder are they promoted because of their stupidity and asskissing?

Were they so stupid to the Iraqis would meet them in open territory and wait to get slaughtered? Maybe its time to rethink WestPoint and the general staff schools. Because if this is the best they can turn out, then its time to convert west point to a condo complex and get rid of the schools for generals.

Its wonder these guys can put on there pants in the morning without strangling themselves.

Remember how we supported Osama and company against the USSR in Afghanistan? Guess what? Iraq is our Afghanistan. And yes, our enemies will be supporting anyone who comes after us.