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October 29, 2003
Mercy Killing

I know I'm supposed to be closed for the day, but I just had to jump in with this one thought:

Will someone please put Camille Paglia out of her misery? Because watching her long but not-so-slow decline into babbling insanity is getting way too painful.

The decline of the intellectual left can be seen in the fact that in the '60s we had Susan Sontag, and in the '90s we had Camille. And now all we've got is Camille babbling about what a hero Rush Limbaugh is.

It's just pitiful.

Posted by billmon at October 29, 2003 02:56 PM
Comments

I liked Sexual Persona.

Posted by: judson at October 29, 2003 03:02 PM

Hell is other people. Specifically, hell is Camile Paglia, Mickey Kaus, Gregg Easterbrook and Christopher Hitchens competing in Who Wants to Be A Contrarian? in every fucking publication I like. I've really come to hate these people.

Posted by: Ted Barlow at October 29, 2003 03:06 PM

Hell is other people. Specifically, hell is Camile Paglia, Mickey Kaus, Gregg Easterbrook and Christopher Hitchens competing in Who Wants to Be A Contrarian? in every fucking publication I like.

I have this image of Jean Paul Sarte holding his head in his hands and screaming -- like the famous painting by Edvard Munch.

Posted by: Billmon at October 29, 2003 03:16 PM

I too subjected myself to that interview. She's unbearably self-important, and to hear her rave about Limbaugh! It's incredible to me that an academic would show such disregard for Limbaugh's history of lies and hypocrisy. I guess she prizes bloviation and self-aggrandizement over truth.

Posted by: deminva at October 29, 2003 03:23 PM

Not to be a contrarian, but I did not like Sexual Personae. Just more of the same sexed-up pseudo-intellectualism that plays right into the hands of the right-wingers and all those convinced a liberal arts education is the surest path to hell. Paglia and her ilk are precisely why academia and in particular the humanities come under such fire. Unfortunately for the integrity of the institution, she probably has tenure.

Posted by: sloo at October 29, 2003 03:24 PM

I'm not sure which is more galling--Paglia's ode to Limbaugh or her claim to be the first blogger (and a disciplined one at that). ::gag!::

Posted by: Bragan at October 29, 2003 03:51 PM

Camille Paglia is an "academic" in the sense that Charles Murray is an academic.

As for putting her out of her misery, that would be an act of kindness -- for which there are recipients far more deserving than she.

Posted by: Cervantes at October 29, 2003 03:55 PM

so typical...when all else fails attack them on their superficial antics and make up the rest. i think her flame has long gone out, she doesn't even piss me off anymore, just bores me...i guess it is up to ann coulter to carry the torch.

Posted by: Kristen at October 29, 2003 04:00 PM

I honestly thought she was a giant troll, knowing nothing about her past writings.

Posted by: Ville at October 29, 2003 04:39 PM

Camille Paglia? Cultural left?

She always has been a rightwinger -- of the libertarian stripe, of course -- but a rightwinger nevertheless. Her "scholarship" is probably worse than Murray's and that's saying something.

Posted by: che at October 29, 2003 04:51 PM

She's just another whore with no real talents who was famous once for being controversial and is trying to rehash the past. It reminds me of all the rock singers who jumped on the disco trend in the late 70's. All of these pundits do the same. They could care less about the real consequences of what they say so long as it gets them their next interview or cable appearance.

Posted by: Josh Prophet at October 29, 2003 05:00 PM

The most salient aspect of that interview was its near-total pot-calling-the-kettle-black projection. Rumsfeld is guilty of grand-standing narcissism, journalists are snide, Mo Dowd is a catty, third-rate wannabe sorority queen. Letterman is smirky and smarmy. Hannity is drunk on himself. Maddona is schizophrenic. Bloggers dump out reams and reams of bad prose. etc.

Posted by: poop ruiz at October 29, 2003 05:16 PM

Madonna, not "maddona". ugh

Posted by: poop ruiz at October 29, 2003 05:17 PM

"Sexual Personae" is always good for a laugh - I mean, men invented civilization because they can aim their piss? Priceless.

Posted by: Ab_Normal at October 29, 2003 05:38 PM

I always like it when, just as I'm thinking about subscribing to Salon, they go and publish something like this. It reminds me why I've never subscribed and can continue to spend my hard-earned money on more worthwhile and life-affirming things, like ale and whores.

Posted by: Adam Rakunas at October 29, 2003 06:12 PM

In what alternative universe was Camille Paglia ever considered part of the left. Or an intellectual, for that matter.

Posted by: Jeff Bogdan at October 29, 2003 06:22 PM

I thought Sexual Personae was one vague insight stretched over a great deal of twaddle to make a not-hopelessly-thin book with some nonsense in it.

Unfortunately she's kept stretching it since, until now an average cross-section of her career can be measured in particles we haven't proved the existence of yet.

Posted by: julia at October 29, 2003 06:36 PM

I found Camille Paglia intriguing at first. But her interminable columns in Salon bagging Hillary Clinton: what a recipe for boredom. I stopped reading them when Hillary became a Senator for Paglia's home state. I guess you can't get rid of tar babies that easily. :-)

Posted by: Peter Murphy at October 29, 2003 08:15 PM

Camille Paglia's rhetorical strategy has always been intimidation via pedantry. Few people have the time to amass equivalently huge compost piles of historical and cultural references, so her grandiose interpretational collages often go unchallenged. I'm sure she has said some true and insightful things in her day, but they are lost in her diarrhagic whirlwind.

Sorry, that was a little Pagliaesque, but I had fun writing it.

Posted by: phlsphr at October 29, 2003 08:40 PM

She is rush's loveslave.

Posted by: Rodger at October 29, 2003 08:42 PM

The FLA lady in a vegatative state for 13 years has days better than her.

Posted by: lk at October 29, 2003 10:01 PM

Phlsphr,
"diahhragic". Niiiice.

I struggled through the Salon piece, six pages worth, thinking she might eventually say something insightful.

All she said was,"Everybody is a suckass hypocrite except me and Rush". I think she made her point, but it wasn't the one she set out to make.

I can't decide who is more of an irrelevant windbag: Paglia or Chris Hitchens.

I know. We should have a contest!

Posted by: tencentlife at October 29, 2003 11:37 PM

On the topic of mercy killing, who else is for pulling Dubya's feed tube?

Posted by: Peteypuck at October 30, 2003 12:55 AM

how many people get influenced by people like paglia, friedman and matthews who take their criticism too much to heart because they suffer under the mistaken assumption that theyre left leaning?

why is it you dont see a reverse of the above? why is it you dont see commentators who drop hints that suggests they might be rightists but turn around and espouse left leaning ideology?

Posted by: niner at October 30, 2003 04:28 AM

Alas, Paglia is reflective of the cultural left in a very real way----60's lefty intellectual lefties had nothing bit contempt for feminism---Hurricane Camille continues that grand old tradition......

Posted by: PDM at October 30, 2003 09:44 AM

I did like the fact that she took on the NYT etc. for whining about museum looting in Baghdad after making no efforts at all prior to the looting at informing the ill-informed American populace that we were about to risk destroying aftifacts and buildings from a very old civilization. Older than the oldest fast-food outlet, even.

Posted by: kozad at October 30, 2003 10:48 AM

I'm with Ted B. in that I reflexively despise contrarians. As far as I'm concerned, the contrarian stance is a cheap rhetorical trick that a writer uses to artificially boost their credibility with the reader. It's just one more besotting vice in our current cultural age of irony.

Posted by: David W. at October 30, 2003 11:24 AM

I'm with Ted B. in that I reflexively despise contrarians. As far as I'm concerned, the contrarian stance is a cheap rhetorical trick that a writer uses to artificially boost their credibility with the reader. It's just one more besotting vice in our current cultural age of irony.

Me three.

Isn't it weird how the person Paglia most reminds one of these days is Lucianne Goldberg?

Posted by: Mothra at October 30, 2003 01:36 PM

Come now, people! Paglia's books are not to be put aside lightly. They are rather to be thrown aside violently, preferably towards an open window or a trash can.

It is astonishing that people like Paglia and Hitchens are called "intellectuals." They are mere pundits and middlebrow entertainers. Meanwhile, real intellectuals (in the fully dignified sense of the word) such as Michel Serres are little known, or not known at all.

America is dumb.

Posted by: Quinn at October 30, 2003 02:08 PM

Could not stand to waste a precious "guest pass" to Salon on Paglia's tripefest:

However, I did get a giggle from the front snippet thus:
"She also cast a disapproving eye on ... bloggers ("endless reams of bad prose!")."

heh heh

almost as good as "diarrhagic whirlwind" penned upthread by Phlsphr.... but not as effective!

Posted by: at October 30, 2003 02:46 PM

She wants to be Ayn Rand when she grows up. Nuf said.

Posted by: hesprynne at October 30, 2003 03:37 PM

Some of these comments remind me of Normal Finkelstein's take on Christopher Hitchens, "the master at this pose of maverick unpredictability".

Posted by: ADM at October 30, 2003 08:23 PM